Bus Conversion: Finding the bus

Photo: Wikimedia
Even before we built the Robbiebago caravan, Rob wanted to convert a bus into a motor home so I suppose it was inevitable. I wondered how can we go better than what we have got already in the Robbiebago caravan. We have 2 slide outs that accommodate 2 swivel recliner chairs in one and a full 3 seater household lounge that the 2 end seats also recline in the other. My kitchen bench is higher than normal allowing so much storage area underneath it, whilst making it easier on my back. I have a convection microwave, sink/cook top combination, 2 king single beds with proper spring mattresses, separate shower and toilet, wardrobe, hooded BBQ, etc etc. There’s only 1 or 2 things I can honestly say I want better, and that is a larger fridge and a compressor fridge at that and maybe we could have had more power points in different places.



Our requirements were fairly straightforward.

The first step is lots of talking, questions, answers, and lists. Talking to other motor home owners was an easy first step we could do as we travelled on the road.
  1. 7m long - so that it could fit into regular parking spaces in town
  2. Wide body - for the extra room it offers
  3. A manual - so we can put in swivel captain chair
  4. Engine up the back - better use of space as we'll place the bed over it.
  5. High internally - Rob is 6’4”  and needs the head room
  6. Cheap but in reasonable condition - we wanted to pay as little as possible - hopefully no more than $25,000 - $35,000

Our short list

This narrowed the search to basically a Hino Rainbow, a Hino Liesse or a Mitsubishi's Fuso. So begins the searching of classifieds, websites and magazines for the appropriate vehicle. We couldn't locate any bus at the prices we were hoping for. I know there are plenty of other buses to choose from out there especially in the narrower width and these were cheaper. We decided that if we were going to be spending so much time in the motor home then the extra width would make all the difference. The Hino Rainbow seems to check most of our boxes.

Where do we find a bus?

Looking for a second hand bus can be pretty frustrating at times. There are a number of different ways to conduct your search. I guess the best way is probably a combination of them all. Here's some of what we did Internet to get an understanding of availability and the price of used buses.
  1. Considered organizing an import directly ourselves. It certainly is an option for some people but at the end of the day, we just weren’t confident of dealing with the Australian red tape that would be required. We just weren't game to do it that way.
  2. Use any contacts we have: The brother in law of Rob’s cousin deals with buying & selling buses including 2nd hand ones. We gave him a call but he deals with full size buses and coaches. He said he will keep his eye out for us.
  3. We checked out the Internet, especially private ads on e-bay & gumtree for buses and motor homes in all sorts of conditions. 
  4. A motor home trading magazine gave us some ideas and choices that out ‘there’.
  5. Check out club and monthly magazines: ‘The Wanderer’ Australia’s largest RV club magazine and other monthly magazines in this field. These magazines also gave us some indication of companies that dealt in buses and their conversions.
  6. Visit Motor home traders and conversion specialists: Since we were heading south pass Brisbane and the Gold Coast, we thought we would concentrate our efforts to here at least as a starting point. So we decided to camp for 3 days in Boonah Showground and unhitch the caravan and use this as a base to search Ipswich, Logan and the Gold Coast. We had a shortlist of 4 places in these areas. 

 

 Visited Motor home traders and conversion specialists

  1. We found an importer based in the Ipswich country with prices in the mid $40'sK. We went there first, they had some buses that looked pretty good in print but when we get there it is a backyard operation. That was OK, everyone has to start off somewhere and this is where he lives. There was probably 8-10 buses there, only 2 Rainbows and a Liesse. The fellow was unkempt and pointed us down the back and left us alone so we took some measurements and did some sketches of possible floor plans. The buses were in very poor condition and some were even sitting in a swampy area – no wonder they were rusty. We were very disappointed in what was on offer and that the photos did not match the reality. He told us of his partner having some better models and he had just moved about half an hour away. Oh well, as we are in the area, we decided we may as well check him out.
  2. What a difference, it is like chalk and cheese. This 2nd fellow trading under a company name, company#1, was also set up again in a back yard, but this yard was well kept and dry. He was very helpful and knowledgeable. After accompanying us to the various buses and exchange of information, he asked if we wanted him to hang around. He left us alone at our request to do our plans & calculations and told us where to find him. Rob and I wandered around with our note pad and tape measure and talked about what could or could not be done. One major thing we learnt here was that we could drop the floor. This guy was very helpful and through him we learnt a lot more about the various models of Rainbows and we were able to narrow it down even further. He also told us he would help with getting a blue plate and the compliances when the time came. He also offered to help source various components such as the fridge, windows etc at ‘cost’ price. I liked this man and could see ourselves buying from him, the bus that best suited our needs here, was OK but we still had more to see. We’ll see what else is around.
  3. Next stop was company#2 near Logan. They have a very neat and tidy showroom with their workshop across the road. The salesman was busy on the phone and took a long time to come out however we were welcome to look at the fitted out motor homes that were completed & for sale there. None were the Hino Rainbows but we looked around at their fit outs, especially at the bathrooms as Rob desires to have a bigger shower cubicle in the next vehicle. My theory is that we are only in it for 5 minutes once a day, so what! I much rather have the room in the kitchen or the living area. Still by actually hopping in & out of these, we learnt what we didn’t want. The salesman still hadn’t turned up when we were finished , then he approached us as we were leaving. They didn’t have many buses and we got the impression that they weren’t really interested in a sale unless they could do the whole shebang.
  4. We still had 2 more places to visit but we were starting to run out of day. Company#3 was the next geographically and this is where we met the owner. We had to meet him at his home as being Friday afternoon, the workshop was closing early for the weekend. There were 6 buses at his place, 1 in particular we liked straight away. The owner was very professional and extraordinarily helpful. Much of what he said confirmed what we had learnt from #2. He also taught us how to recognize a genuine Import certificate and what to look out for when buying a bus. They do conversions on these buses themselves as well as sell the buses direct to people like ourselves. The wider body buses seem to be consistently demanding around $20,000 more. To sweeten the deal, the owner offered us 6 new tyres, a new motor home door (a compliance requirement for motor homes), full service including new air filters etc. He also took us for a drive in the bus around the place. They were willing to give us cost prices on anything on our wish list, stoves, fridges etc. They would also personally take us to the transport body to get the final registration and compliance requirements at the end of the fit outs. We couldn’t fault their offer, and the condition of this bus was the best by a country mile. It also had relatively lower kilometres. We are very tempted in spite of the much, much higher initial price.
  5. We ran out of time to visit the other company on our list, company#4 who also imported the buses regularly. We decided to head back to the Robbiebago and take the weekend to decide if we like the Rainbow at company#3 enough to part with a lot more money than we first anticipated.

We were quite worn out from all the travelling and brain overload. We decided to wait a little while & continue to look around. Our decision was based more on finances. We knew from our experience in building the caravan that we are unable to purchase the various components at a decent price.

 

 A decision at last!


Rob went & bought a new trading magazine & approached a private advertiser who had a Fuso for less than half the price of the Hinos we had preferred. It was still available but.... it was all the way over on the other side of Australia. We decided to quickly head home. Within 36 hours of arriving home, Rob was on the first of 2 planes and flew over to see if it was even half decent. He bought the bus there and then and started to drive it home.  3,200km in 5 days. He pushed himself and the bus.

Privacy

We have purposely left the names of the companies off the blog, however we are willing to pass them on privately if you contact us by email.




Christmas food made easy

Christmas menu

Fruit Christmas Tree
Here is my take on a sample festive Christmas Menu to make Christmas in your RV, that is both easy and interesting. Because it is so simple and easy to do even in a caravan, then it is fantastic for all who lead busy lives or have kids or are carers etc. I have a few suggested alternatives. I don’t mind taking shortcuts by using prepared foods to simplify or speed things up especially at Christmas time in an RV such as tart cases, frozen or tinned fruit, pavlova bases etc.

I have noticed noticed with the advent of shows such as Master Chef & My Kitchen Rules as well as the great food magazines that are around now, that party foods and other meals are getting more and more beautiful and tasty for sure but this often is more complicated and needs time and effort, something that is not always available. Personally I prefer simple and easy, especially when travelling in an RV. There’s nothing wrong with fancy foods, and we are being introduced to a wonderful array of foods and taste combinations.

 

Summer Christmas

Surfing Santas Photo
In Australia, we are blessed to have Christmas in the summer. So there doesn’t have to be any slaving over a hot stove, especially in a caravan! Make the most of the abundant fresh fruit and seafood that is available right now. Decide your meal type: for me it basically comes down to 2 choices; a BBQ or a cold buffet. Of course being Christmas I try to make it as fun filled or unique as possible. For example if you are doing a cheese ball, why not make it into the shape of a candy cane with small diced capsicum in diagonal stripes as seen here on my Pinterest Board.

Early preparation is the key

Start your planning and preparations for a terrific Christmas party now. Don’t put it off and leave it until the last minute if you want a stress free time. Obviously, the more you do ahead of time, the more you will enjoy the day with your loved ones, after all this is what makes the meal special.Scour the recipes in books, magazines, pinterest and TV for lots of ideas.

 

My appliances in the RV

Just to let you know, in my RV I have just 1 convection microwave, 2 gas burners, an electric fry pan and a very small fridge with an even tinier freezer. This tiny fridge/freezer is my biggest disadvantage to advance food preparations.

 

My menu suggestions

Make any changes to the menu to make it truly your own feast.

 

Nibbles or canapés

  • Cheese platters be inventive like from Beauty and Bedlam or the Cheese Ball shaped as a Candy Cane as seen here. This can be made a day or two ahead.
  • Spinach Cob is always yummy. Quick & simple recipe from Leave room for dessert. You can make the dip part one or two days ahead.
  • Mexican Dip is another favourite
  • Vol au vents with Chicken & Mushroom. You can find the recipe here on Darjeeling Glamour
  • Mini quiches made with packet hash browns (For the Aussies, you can buy packet hash browns at Aldi's) See the recipe here Pizzazzerie
  • Salmon & avocado tartare is a  wonderful simple recipe & can be found here at Jeanette's Healthy Living
  • Prawn cocktails (or shrimps for my American friends) can be found here at Cakes, Craft & Quilts blog. I add some diced avocado on top but otherwise I follow this recipe here on Life Martini. Or you could do a lovely large display as seen in the photo here.

Salads

  • Pasta or potato salads can easily be made ahead. I have also sometimes bought them from a deli and added little touches such as crispy bacon and sliced hard boiled egg. A tasty recipe can be found here at Dishing with Leslie.
  • Pineapple salsa is a great side dish. I might use fresh pineapple and salsa though. This recipe asnit is, is great for campers as it is made with ingredients straight out of the pantry so you can always have it on hand for unexpected guests as well!!!.

Main Meals

  • Sticky Chicken Drumsticks is a different taste for Christmas and comes from Lauren's blog
  • BBQ Ribs are yummy from Babble
  • Chicken kebabs from Jono & Jules is simple and looks divine
  • Salmon is always a favourite. Just make sure not to overcook it which is where people might make a mistake. 4 minutes each side is generally plenty.
Santa Strawberries

Desserts


  • All out family favourite is the no bake Lemon Cheesecake as found here 
  • Fruit salad. If you want to be super inventive try this Fruit Christmas Tree as seen above.
  • Super easy Strawberry santas are so cute from Stay at home mum
  • Whilst at Stay at home mum's blog, I discovered these Tim Tam balls, I have yet to try them. But my kids LOVE Tim Tams, I am sure they will be a hit. Tim Tams  biscuits (cookies) are  unique to Aussies, but I know that they can be bought at stores in USA and Canada that stock Australian foods such as Vegemite.

 

Drinks/cocktails 

Peach Bellini is great for Christmas especially for those of us that depend on our pantry tinned foods. I us this recipe from Cupcakes and cutleryexcept I used lightly chopped canned peaches.

Schedule

Work out your menu & then your schedule order. Your cooking schedule and pre-planning pays dividends! You will be glad you went to so much trouble. Do as much of the cooking and preparations as much as possible ahead of time. Use the freezer if you have the space as much as possible to make the cheesecake, marinate your meat and freeze it make biscuit dough etc.

Last Year's Nibbles table

This link will take to the post that shows you our last year's coffee table.

Enjoy!


Lastly but certainly not least: Don’t worry, relax & enjoy. Christmas is a time to enjoy our friends and family. If something goes wrong or doesn’t quite come out the way you planned, relax, take a deep breath and work around it. Your guests will probably never be the wiser.




What are your suggestions for an easy Christmas meal?


Joke: A sign of the times

Photo: Aaron Molina


On his way home from a trip to the national park, my husband came across a “Road Closed” sign.

Knowing the area quite well, he was undeterred and manoeuvred around the sign to continue on.

After a short while, the bitumen ended.

There was another much larger sign:

“What part of ‘Road Closed’ didn’t you understand?”

That's telling him

South Coast Beaches are the best

Fantastic beaches

Austinmer Beach
It is official, we have the best beaches in Australia. I have always known that the beaches around Wollongong were beautiful and although there are some nice beaches around Australia, I haven't seen an entire area to beat the South Coast.
Thanks to an Australia wide competition from accommodation website Wotif.com, they have confirmed the NSW South Coast's reputation as a coastal paradise, with the region named most popular in the Wotif's first ever Battle of the Beaches

The South Coast of NSW

The South coast covers all of the suburbs of Wollongong from Thirroul right down to Shell Cove, Kiama, Geroa, Gerringong, Jervis Bay and right down to Batemans Bay.

We even beat such iconic world famous beaches such as Manly, Bondi and the Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast and the Whitsundays.

Towradgi Rock Pool looking towards Wollongong - Photo:Neil Taylor

So much variety

There are so many beaches in this area. Some are great for kids to swim in such as the still waters of the inlet at 7 Mile beach at Gerringong with the main beach right next door for the bigger kids. Austimer Beach, Towradgi Beach have pools along side the beach. Werri Beach, Mollymook, Broulee and The Farm at Shellharbour have great waves for surfing. If you want to learn to surf, there are myriads of surfing schools up and down the coast, with Wollongong, Shellharbour, Mollymook & Broulee being just some that I know of .You can snorkel in the calm waters of Jervis Bay and see such delights as Port Jackson sharks, octopus, cuttlefish and pipefish. You can dive with seals off Montague Island.

Accommodation

There is a huge range of accommodation on the South Coast from camping spots to caravan parks, B&B's, motels, hosted accommodations right up to the top of the range resorts.
Fine examples of award wining accommodations include Mollymook Beach Waterfront. They won the coveted Gold Award in its class in the 2012 NSW Tourism Awards. 
Merry Beach Camping
Merimbula Beach Holiday Park won the Peoples Choice Award: South Coast in the class of Tourist & Caravan Parks  with Merry Beach Caravan Resort winning several awards on the night. Merry Beach is where one of my daughters and several of her friends had a great time, when they went there for their graduation holiday (Schoolies week).

Free camping?

There is a distinct lack of free camping spots available in this area which is a real pity as we are missing out on a huge potential clientele who might not spend much on their accommodation, since they drive it around with them, but they all need fuel for their vehicles and food for their tummies. Many of them also have money to spend on tours and other attractions in the area. Don't the councils want  to share their area with this large group of people?

What is your favourite part of the South Coast? Let us know where you love to go and why.
Please leave your comment below to encourage the rest of us to visit there one day.

Bus conversion: Stripping it out

Rob could hardly wait to get stuck into the bus conversion. Is this a bus conversion or a motorhome conversion? Either way Rob was making it into a new motor home for us to do some serious RV  travel around Australia.

Never a smooth road

You may recall from the previous post on this subject that Rob had problems. The last 300km or so of the journey was a worry as the gears started making this horribly noise and so Rob started to drop his speed and nurse it home. He only just made it to the bottom of our long driveway. He couldn’t get it into gear and Dean ended up towing him up our driveway with our tractor. Rob quickly arranged for an inspection by our mechanic, Waldo. [We have been so grateful over the many years that Waldo comes to his customers. We can highly recommend him for fans in the Wollongong area.] Rob thought it might be something to do with the diff, but after consulting with Waldo and then a diesel mechanic recommended by Waldo, they found it is something to do with chains...which is sort of better news than we had expected.

Dreaming of the possible layouts 

Now that we had the bus physically with us, we could begin to actually visualize and plan what we can fit in and where. We knew that we wanted 2 slide outs, one for the bed and the other for the lounge. Rob had discovered this great mechanism for the slide outs but they had to be ordered direct from America, so the sooner we could work out the sizes we desired, the sooner we could place an order and the sooner we can get them. I gather it will still take a while, especially with the silly season (Christmas) upon us and production and shipping being out of kilter for the time being.


Stripping the bus

His dream of converting a bus into a motor home has started with ripping out the seats. The strapping strength of our youngest came in handy here. (Thanks Dean for your big muscular contribution). More stripping goes on over the next week, with the curtains removed, the partitioning around the driver's seat is taken away along with the hot water thermos/heater, over head luggage racks removed and the small fridge


Another hiccup

Rob started disconnecting the ‘kero’ heater, only to discover it wasn’t a kerosene heater as he had been told but a very old diesel heater. As Rob soon discovered when diesel started leaking as a result of cutting the fuel lines. He had to block the cut fuel lines and rethink his next step.

Journal keeping

Now Rob is keeping a journal with the amount of hours and costs involved. With the idea of the information being useful to someone else who might want to convert a bus into a motor home, I will most likely put these details in a summary type format at the conclusion of the bus conversion series. That is when we can finally call it our motor home. I wonder what we will call this motor home... we already have an idea... but it's a secret for now!

Questions

If there are any questions you are welcome to ask in the comments below and I will answer you asap.

Ponder: Being Green

Rather than a joke this week, I have something for you to ponder. So read and then stop and think, why is the world truly the way it is?

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day. Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were truly recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.

But too bad we didn't do the green thing back then.

We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right; we didn't have the green thing back in our day. Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

Photo source: Zenra

But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?


Decorating the Christmas Tree

It is sort of traditional in our household to start the Christmas decorating on the first weekend in December. Accordingly I have erected the Christmas tree, but I am going to leave it unadorned for just 10 days as our only Australian based daughter wants to come home to help decorate it as was the custom in the past. I can hardly wait to see her again and to decorate it and the rest of the house - well the main rooms anyway. Aaaah. those 10 days are going to seem forever!!!

Part of the reason I wanted to get the tree up was that I made a Christmas Tree Skirt this year. It is something I have wanted to do for years, but never got around to it. It is a gorgeous ruffled version and it was much more fiddly than I expected: getting all those gathers sewn up without the under skirt being caught up was the main problem. My quick unpick in indispensable, I must have unpicked maybe a metre at least. I did consider hot gluing it but  decided against it as I want to be able to use it for many, many years, and hot glue does lose it's effectiveness after a few years, plus one tutor said that it was such a hassle, that she may have gone faster had she sown it... obviously she wouldn't have run into my problems!



Now that it is finished I can show you this for now. I think it looks fantastic. I made it in multiple colours as I wanted to use up the fabrics I had on hand with the exception of the red and white striped fabric which I bought specifically since the outside frill needed more fabric than what I had on hand.

Tutorials used

For the ruffled skirt I followed the excellent tutorial on Prudent Baby except I just cut a circle for the centre hole as I pop it over the tree base before I put the rest of the tree together.

I made my own continuous biasbinding using this tutorial found on Dread Pirate. Shelley Rodgers goes into a lot of technical stuff including how to calcalate how much material you'll need. Also look around her site. She has so many quilts that she has done, she is amazing.

Have you made anything for Christmas this year?

Please link to it in the comments and I will take a look as some of my readers are likely to do as well!